(00:02) we have been duped by feminism sexual Liberation and anti-depressants we have been told that we are powerful and free now as women but we feel tired wired and bitter we’re mostly eating right exercising and meditating wrangling to-do lists and arranging playdates and yet there’s a haunting hollowness beneath the huge complaint what if I told you that there is a huge Storehouse a reservoir of energy inside of you that has not been tapped that you could feel light and pulsing excited and alive in ways that a wellness lifestyle
(00:49) cannot deliver that you could trust yourself that the world could feel safe and that unexpected and expected Delights could start to illuminate your path no coach therapist doctor or Guru required just you learning to get real present and attentive with you I feel like I’m here to matchmake your inner parts for the greatest love affair ever written I want to help you learn first where you’re buying eggs from the hardware store which is the source of all pain I want to help you master entering through the upset which is the
(01:27) only spiritual practice You’ll Ever Need and to get real comfortable putting on your villain Crown which is in my opinion the key to True power and then you’ll attune to your inner yes so you can live the life defined by the specific pleasure of who you are I am so excited to announce my latest book called The reclaimed woman which is available for pre-order now so if you head to the link in show notes you can learn more about bonuses events and companion offerings and I cannot wait to see your gorgeous face on the
(02:12) path I’m Dr Kelly Brogan you may know me as a New York Times bestselling author of a book with an exploding pill on the cover Renegade psychiatrist pole dancer or honorary member of the Disinformation Dozen what can I say I’m a born provocator I’ve spent most of my recent life exposing deceptions connecting dots and discovering the secret places my inner victim is still waiting to be liberated and now I feel called to help you reclaim all of your parts your health your sexuality your power and
(02:44) your expression so that you can finally truly own yourself I want to ignite in you that inner knowing and the pulsing Vitality that lives beneath your disempowerment disconnection and resentment so that you can audaciously courageously and playfully alchemize your struggle into the specific pleasure of who you are this is Reclamation radio a soulfire production hi and welcome back to Reclamation radio I am Dr Kelly Brogan and today I would like to offer a much requested musing on diet and nutritional paradigms and I promise this will not be
(03:27) a Paleo versus veganism debate breakdown instead I want to frame the Journey of one’s relationship to self-sustenance and speak a little bit about my personal experience over the years so I’ve come to view one’s relationship to food and nutrition as part of the maturational process of our inner femininity and because of that it makes sense that we would you know start the major of our Adolescent and adult life in some state of disconnection and unawareness I know for me I spent many many years of my late teens and 20s
(04:12) giving zero about what I was eating literally and just eating because it tasted good eating because it was available I’ll get into this in a little bit but I am according to my mentor Dr Nicholas Gonzalez’s rubric as sympathetic dominance I’ve always been thin literally doesn’t matter what I eat so I could treat myself like a garbage dump and it doesn’t matter I don’t gain a pound so I would eat you know McDonald’s and candy and I often talk about how even in the hospital where I was training in New York as an
(04:42) intern and resident in the gift store they would know my candy order to the extent that they’d have it waiting on the counter for me every single day so it was Twizzlers and dark chocolate Milky Way and white chocolate Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups every day okay so you know you go from this state of unawareness and disconnection you could call it unconsciousness and we have a rupture and we have an invitation to our individuation journey and for most of us that looks like symptoms it looks like illness it looks like an experience that
(05:17) we don’t want to have in an ongoing Manner and so we’re presented this Crossroads in today’s you know democratization of information and the availability of so many of these ideas online there are options right so you kind of know well I could manage my symptoms and run to the doctor or maybe there’s something I could do about it so often at this fork in the road and the as of yet unalmis experience of powerlessness we look to the outside for guidance we look for that diet Guru to help us out of this mess and so many of
(05:54) us attached to a positive parent figure a positive Mentor right and for that was a naturopath you know that I went to when I was first diagnosed with Hashimoto and she became the good mommy right the good mommy Authority who could tell me you know what to do how to be how to nourish myself right she could breastfeed me back to health so to speak and because of her I took gluten and dairy out of my diet and began to engage conscious consumerism so what happened there right so there are many you know Frameworks biological Frameworks that I
(06:33) could explain you know through psychoneuroimmunology and you know the role of inflammatory foods in endocrine balance Etc that I could explain what happened as I watched my antibodies and that’s a whole other discussion the relevance of antibodies now that Tom Cowen is in my field I have to be very careful using these words and making assumptions that we even know that these things exist and what they are and what they do but for the purpose of this narrative I watched my antibodies go from you know the high
(07:02) 2000s to normal range within a couple of months of changing my diet and that experience of being told what to do and having good results is a lot like you know the hierarchical experience of school right so I ended up being and becoming a good daughter a good patient to this naturopath and so many of us can get stuck especially in the functional medicine Integrative Medicine world we can get stuck in the external metrics right so the testing you know all the the fatty acid testing and the amino acid testing and the stool testing and
(07:39) the you know cortisol panel and all of these things we can get stuck in am I doing it good enough yet and often there is a low ceiling on the Vitality that can be reclaimed through that Paradigm so as we move along in maturation and healing of our inner mother we can get to this place where selfs suance is totally Guided by that inner knowing and specifically becomes an experience of listening right so that receptive feminine comes online you begin to listen to your body and relate to your symptoms to the messages that
(08:19) come from your body with curiosity and then eating becomes a pleasurable experience of self-nourishment right so I have visions of myself you know one day in the future where every single thing that I put into my mouth is an ecstatic moment of connecting myself to the natural world that is possible and I I do see it as the archetypal journey of this feminine maturation so I had already put my Hashimoto’s thyroiditis into remission with the diet that I share in my books and in vital mind reset and and it’s an
(09:01) ancestral type of diet and I already started to translate this into my private practice at the time that was focused on helping women to come off of medications and first offering their systems a signal of safety chiefly through this anti-inflammatory diet so I’d already had this experience and begun to have pretty remarkable success not only in helping patients to taper off of medications but to reclaim experiences of Vitality resolution of chronic illness discontinuation of non- psychiatric medications let alone
(09:38) psychiatric I had already seen this so I knew that there was something to this diet thing and of course the mindset shift that accompanies reclaiming your power of choice because if there is one choice that we make all day every day it’s what do I put in my mouth and so the ritual of reclaiming that begins to shift your system out of stress physiology and into regenerative physiology I am a firm believer of that so I had already had these experiences when I began to work with my mentor Nick in 2014 and I am a believer that living
(10:17) proof is the greatest inspiration right so that’s why I focus on publishing case reports and case series and randomized trials and Gathering testimonial videos from people who have worked with my program and my Approach and I don’t want to take Health wellness and dietary advice from somebody who appears unwell so when I you know when I met him late in his 60s and he did not have a single Health ailment did not wear eyeglasses for reading and had more energy than could be contained in one human I was deeply inspired and that was
(10:53) before I learned about his outcomes which have as far as I’m aware not been matched in this scientific literature and these are in neurodegenerative illnesses in you know cancer diagnosis including terminal cancer across the board so I always felt that he had the answer to everything so he was such a positive parent figure for me and it was very inspirational for me to orient this sort of like just crystallizing awareness around the power of nutrition what I was seeing in my practice what I had been experiencing in my own body and
(11:28) my own health trajectory now felt like it had a home because the system that he worked with is a a 12 diet model and is inspired by you know folks like Weston Price and pottinger and the idea that ecologically in these different niches across the world we develop a balanced nervous system in tune with the available environment and Associated nutrients right so this is why you have folks you know Eskimos who eat primarily fat and meat and you have amazonians who eat primarily plants right so there is not one diet however there is this
(12:11) spectrum of diets he did not believe that veganism was included in the Spectrum and he helped me to understand that the types of folks who would come to my practice specifically those struggling with you know so-called multiple chemical sensitivity with depression with autoimmunity with allergies that these individuals are best balanced with a highly acidic meat and red meat specifically and fat containing diet so Nick essentially helped me to understand my success and contextualized the patients that I have been working
(12:50) with as parasympathetic dominance so I go into this more in vital mind reset however briefly parasympathetic dominance have strong parasympathetic tone in their system which results in things like reactive hypoglycemia so these folks you know have this roller coaster of blood sugar and easily gain weight and they are often you know sort of dreamers Visionaries Bohemians outside of the box thinkers explorers and they typically experience specific pathologies if you want to call them that so you know as I mentioned
(13:31) hypothyroidism these allergy issues autoimmunity and they on a cancer Spectrum are the ones who experience you know so-called liquid tumors right so lymphomas leukemias whereas the sympathetic dominance are the you know the thin uptight more rigid types right so the kinds who become doctors or lawyers and you know he would say you know it’s like the surgeon who eats like a candy bar all day and he’s like totally fine and so as I learn more about polyvagal theory and the ways in which the nervous system adapts to early
(14:05) life trauma the Paras are those more attuned to freeze response probably and the sympathetic dominance are those more attuned to fight and flight so Nick always said that patients want to eat the diet that will heal them and that explained why so many of the vegans and vegetarians which was probably the majority of the patients coming to my practice would light up like a Christmas tree when I would give them my you know red meat bolog recipe to start out their month-long dietary Journey with so at that point I had seen that this high red
(14:46) meat animal food-based diet worked I had the proof I had the evidence I had the context and I also knew that it wasn’t about a philosophy or about ethics this was just about Reclamation of choice and potentially aligning with high nutrient density anti-inflammatory foods at a moment of Health crisis in one’s life so we’ll pause here for a message from our sponsor my Signature Health Reclamation program vital mind reset when people have the chance to ask me questions about their lives about their anxiety
(15:23) depression stuckness and their feeling of being trapped in their body and in patterns of struggle I pretty much have one answer my history Mak program vital mind reset it’s 44 days and this year it goes live on April 4th with limited capacity so if you’re ready to reset your story join us at the linol show notes and on Kelly Brogan md.
(15:45) com and get ready to shed your struggle and step into the specific pleasure of who you are so Nick’s approach was a diet for life for the most part right and what I began to observe is that you know my Pati would do vital mind reset protocol and folks online were doing this protocol and what was happening was they were beginning to reconnect to their own intuition and to go on their own food journey and their own life journey and so I actually think that because we are in this Zeitgeist right now of psycho emotional maturation right we’re going
(16:21) from our Collective adolesence into our adulthood understanding what it is to take personal responsibility understanding what it is to resolve our projections and idealizations so that we can actually step into the sovereignty of adult Consciousness it makes sense to me that things have changed you know since I first was exposed to these Concepts and now we are each on our own really spiritual journey in understanding how to exercise The Power of Choice around self-sustenance and so this portal you know that I move through and that my you
(16:57) know patients and online folks move through is really about knowing what you can no longer unknow right so now you understand that your choices matter and they actually specifically matter in the resolution of internal incoherence so that leads me a bit to my experience which is that you know I was eating this probably more than what would be recommended through his model more red meat than you know would be consistent with a sympathetic diet probably because I was still in addiction around the stress physiology
(17:37) of sympathetic dominance right in my figh ORF flight I really liked being revved especially when I was still living in New York and fast forward to 2020 and I adopted my first pet I adopted my cat Mushu and shortly thereafter adopted his soulmate intuitively who is named bitty kitty and shortly thereafter began to raise chickens and I remember the day that I you know had cooked some sort of a red meat fet minan or something like that as I did and my kitty I have a lot of boundary issues with my animals because
(18:19) my inner child is in charge of them and she wants them around all the time on the table and whatever else so bitty Kitt is on the kitchen table and I’m eating and I caught her gaze and she’s looking in my eyes with her big beautiful green eyes and I’m putting my Fork into this fet Manan and I burst into tears and I just had an experience of being jolted out of a way of being that I’m not sure I’ll ever revert to right so I stopped eating red meat then I stopped making the Italian chicken
(18:53) stock that I made literally every week of my life and was you know my my children’s favorite food my mom’s recipe I stopped eating that because you know holding that chicken after having held my beloved chickens in my yard it just was not possible and I remember talking to one of my girlfriends at the time who has cats as pets and she said you know what I would eat my cats if I was starving right like if end of days you know I would eat them and I thought that’s it this isn’t about you know some
(19:25) sort of right or wrong spiritual path it’s about internal Co cerence and if she would eat her cats then it certainly makes sense that she would continue to eat meat and there wouldn’t be that internal tension right so it’s always the war inside that becomes illuminated and then the steps to aligning with one’s self and reconciling those seemingly irreconcilable parts inside is the task at hand so it’s been several years now that I have eaten a pescatarian diet and I joke that nobody better get me a fish as a pet because I
(20:00) need some time to adjust and adapt but I have given this a lot of consideration and what I’ve sort of come to is that there are times in our early disconnection from you know the Earth from nature from each other from ourselves where the physiology and probably specifically stressed physiology of an animal that is killed to be eaten is highly adaptive and is a gift actually and to comport oneself around that gift with reverence and gratitude and some sort of a a sacred awareness that you know this animal is
(20:42) offering you something that you need energetically chronically you know biologically however you want to look at it I think that over time we can unlock and unleash enough of our inner energetic resources I mean that’s obviously why people can live without food or water and have done so for decades right so you know breatharians know this and water faster know this and frugivores know this uh there are ways that we can heal sufficiently integrate sufficiently and begin to access dimensions of ourself that provide that
(21:19) self-nourishment but it doesn’t happen when you’re steeped in childhood trauma and all of the incoherence in your life is unaddressed right so perhaps if you become a vegan or a vegetarian too soon and for reasons that are related to being right and good you’re so much in your trauma field and you’re so little motivated by the Curiosity of listening to your body and seeking the already there pleasure of self-nourishment that your body’s going to show you you know this isn’t it and it doesn’t work
(21:53) and you’re not ready and not that it’s like a Readiness like a linear thing however you know for me it has been and I’m careful you know not to imply that I am more healed you know more spiritually attuned or somehow Superior and that’s why I can eat this way it’s just that I listened to that inner calling and I actually felt the signature of lasting change which is relief when I personally shifted my diet in this way I I felt I actually continued to feel immense relief and if if I just felt like I’m
(22:30) doing the right thing and I need other people to do the right thing in order for me to feel justified in my rightness odds are you know I would probably struggle with symptoms and the transition on a health level has been totally unremarkable for years I have not noticed much of anything however I do have awareness around the fact that there is a potential nobo hexing in there because I do still carry the belief that there are nutrients that are not available you know through a vegetarian diet it’s what I studied for
(23:02) many years in the early part of my career and it’s possible you know that I could then create that reality over years right where I am becoming nutrient depleted over years because often the patients that I would work with were vegetarian for several years before the hit the fan for them and they were invited to explore you know their relationship to what it was that they were putting in their body so in the summer of 2022 I did a water fast and it was seven days of water only I talked about my journey and also interview my
(23:40) friend Andy calman who inspired this in the sovereignty series and my experience of eliminating all food and beverages other than water for that week and then it was fruit only for two subsequent days was so Illuminating around the emotional relationship that I had to specific foods and beverages that I really was invited through that process to sit with myself and the parts of myself that I was distracting my awareness from in a way that was very very very challenging and also clarifying right and so coming
(24:22) out of that I thought okay well I’m just I’m going to shift my diet now to mostly fruit and that was to to toal noo for me so it’s just not a fit and that’s not to say you know that Lauren lochman who is the lovely human who led the fast who’s been a frugivore for like 30 years seems radiantly healthy that that isn’t real for him right and it doesn’t beg the assertion of the one final dietary Landing place so the power of pattern disruption the power of self-experimentation the power of
(24:56) following your intuitive call to create a little laboratory to explore and decipher your body’s own messages it lays fresh snow on the mountain and you can ski new tracks you know to this day I I still explore and listen and experiment I mean yesterday I had you know two sticks of butter and six eggs it’s like I’m playing around always exploring you know my relationship actually to like nurturing Beverages and specifically matcha that’s on deck for me and I want to listen I want to learn and I also want to resolve that little
(25:34) whisper inside that says H this isn’t really a fit for you with the power of my daily choices I also came out of the water fast thinking like wow vital mind reset is really easy it’s a really easy way to reclaim your life because there are outcomes through water fasting and I I think as we understand the power of water as information right we we can explain these outcomes in a profound way however I was like yeah vitamine reset is a way easier approach to saving your own life than than this is maybe this
(26:09) comes like way down the line after something like vital mind reset so I’ve really come to appreciate the difference between the inner yes that is a guidance is a connection to if you want to call it your higher self yourself with a capital s and that inner yes often is very quiet it’s very uncharged and neutral energetically relative to the inner yes that might be appeasement focused I want to get straight A on life I’m afraid of illness and death like I’m going here I must I must you know that charged yes
(26:53) sometimes will take you to a place where there are opportunities to reconnect to that quiet yes again in the future and the only way to really begin to feel for that intuitive quieter yes is to send your body a signal of safety to begin to create the container for your curiosity and your capacity to listen to yourself and I do think that’s why a very structured program you know a ritual if you will can be that portal of introduction to your own intuition I mean I’ve certainly seen it work over and over and over and over again that
(27:38) the commitment and the exercising of your power of choice in the form of a diet protocol at some point in your life you know I always say that vital mind reset is meant to be done literally one time in your life at some point in your life can be a very very powerful pattern disruptor that introduces you to yourself so that you can continue to walk yourself home hope that was helpful if you’re struggling with brain fog fatigue or anxiety and you want to access gamechanging life hacks based on my history-making health Reclamation
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